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::PNC Meeting Agenda::

--- 11/212012 21:00h EST ---
IRC: irc.pirateirc.net
Channel: #pnc
Wiki: http://www.pirate-party.us/wiki/PNC_11/28/12

Minutes

Record of the meeting


1 - ATTENDEES

1.1 - Members of the PNC

  • Attending

Erik Zoltan, Massachusetts Joseph T. Klein, Wisconsin Kyle DeVore, Oregon Jarod Smith, Georgia Bradley Hall, Florida

  • Excused
  • Unexcused

New York California Washington

  • Probation

Oklahoma

Minutes

Record of the meeting


1.2 - At Large Members of the PNC

Benjamin Sauerhaft Coplon, PA Nick DeSalvio, Maryland

1.3 - Officers of the PNC

Lindsay-Anne Brunner, NY, Captain


2 - PROCEEDINGS

Meeting opened at: 9:06pm EST by Lindsay-Anne Brunner

  • Meeting chaired by Lindsay-Anne Brunner
  • Secretary for this meeting is Daniel Gorski
  • Quorum is established: 5 out of 8 Members present
  • Logging Enabled: Yes

3 - Review of previous minutes

http://www.pirate-party.us/wiki/PNC_11/15/12

4 - REPORTS

4.3 - Short Report From Committees

IT Committee

Work on site is slow, need more people to help create content or just help out Contact information for the State Parties is requested

Press Committee

no update Coplon agrees to be "fallback" for press committee

5 - Agenda Items

  • Election of First Officer and Quartermaster
    • Caleb Langeslag is voted in as First Officer
    • Daniel Gorski is voted in as Quartermaster

- AOB -

  • Next meeting: 12/26/2012 at 9PM EST
  • Meeting closed: 10:20pm EST

- Logs of the Meeting -

<kusanagi> Okay, guys, called for 9:06pm, Roll Call! <mildbeard> Erik Zoltan, Massachusetts <kusanagi> Lindsay-Anne Brunner, NY, Captain <Bosun> Joseph T. Klein, Wisconsin <MrSquared> Kyle DeVore, Oregon <jarod_> JAROD SMITH GEORGIA

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<Rush> Bradley Hall, Florida <itspara> Nick, Maryland

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<OyajiVyse> Daniel Gorski, New York <kusanagi> Huzzah <kusanagi> Ok, in the topic is the agenda <itspara> the date is wrong <mildbeard> Hey I need an account? <kusanagi> no, i got the date wrong

<kusanagi> There we go, sorry <kusanagi> long day <itspara> >Guests are not allowed to join that pad. Please sign in. <kusanagi> I'll open it up.. could have sworn.. <MrSquared> https://pnc.piratenpad.de/PNC-11-28-12 <kusanagi> https://pnc.piratenpad.de/PNC-11-28-12 <kusanagi> thank you kyle <kusanagi> Man, I'm out of it lol

<kusanagi> ok, agenda in topic for reals now <kusanagi> Ok, to reports, is IT here? <kusanagi> itspara, anything on the IT front? <itspara> I don't believe IT has anything to report. CalebLangeslag can correct me if im wrong. <kusanagi> Don't think he's in right now, Mr CalebLangeslag <itspara> Work on the new website is slow and sluggish. like a wet sponge. <kusanagi> Is there anything we can do to try to step up that pace? :/ <kusanagi> I've started to work on it as well... is it just a personnel issue? <itspara> We can definitely include more people who are interested in creating content or participate otherwise. We are using wordpress. <mildbeard> What needs to be done aside from content? <itspara> Additionally we should probably decide what specifically needs to be worked on. <kusanagi> Contact information for states is needed, now that I recall <itspara> Not much, mostly content and figuring out which plugins we want to use and make sure they work properly. <kusanagi> So, if you guys don't mind sending your site/contact emails for your state party my way, that would rock. I could finish that as soon as I have the info <passstab> kbenjamin sauerhaft coplon chester PA (sorry) <kusanagi> Better late than never :) <kusanagi> itspara, that's pretty much all for IT? <itspara> I believe so <kusanagi> Press was cancelled this week, as I had an interview during the meeting time. i also would like if someone stepped up as new head for the press committee, because right now I'm still head of that.. I think someone else should take over <kusanagi> if anyone's interested, of course XD <passstab> i'll be fallback if you want <kusanagi> that would rock so much <passstab> :) <kusanagi> yaaaay! <kusanagi> ok, so, onward to FO and QM election <kusanagi> For FO, CalebLangeslag is the only candidate <kusanagi> So.. Um, I don't know how this is going to work.. Just aye-or-nay, I suppose? <Bosun> aye <mildbeard> aye <MrSquared> aye <passstab> abstain :) <kusanagi> jarod, Rush <kusanagi> Ok, I'll call it. 3 aye, 2.5abstain, CalebLangeslag is FO <mildbeard> Congratulations to CalebLangeslag! <kusanagi> Hooray!

  • kusanagi throws confetti
  • Missle59 throws a party
  • mildbeard sips rum.

<kusanagi> now, for QM, again, one nominee, OyajiVyse. So, let's vote on it. Aye, Nay, Abstain <Bosun> eye <mildbeard> aye <itspara> abstain <MrSquared> aye <passstab> aye <jarod_> abstain <itspara> *abstaining due to lack of information on nominee <Rush> aye <Rush> and aye on the other, there's only one nominee, right? <kusanagi> Rush, the first vote's closed already <kusanagi> Bosun, that's aye, correct? <Bosun> aye <Bosun> yes <Bosun> true <kusanagi> and calling it, 4 for, 1.5 abstain <kusanagi> congrats OyajiVyse \

  • mildbeard gulps rum and toasts congratulations to OyajiVyse.

<itspara> why are we voting publicly? I thought we did this privately <OyajiVyse> Thank you kindly :) <itspara> Congrats CalebLangeslag and OyajiVyse <Rush> There was only one candidate for each position <itspara> I know <itspara> but still. <kusanagi> itspara, it's one candidate for each position <kusanagi> ok, yay, full new board <kusanagi> Anyone have AOB to add? <itspara> I know. I have no probems with it.. i just thought all elections would have private voting regardless <kusanagi> Not for one candidate, but meh. <kusanagi> Anyone have anything else to go over tonight? <itspara> ok <kusanagi> Cos, if not, we can leave. Next meeting is December 26th (TWENTY-SIXTH) 2012. <kusanagi> Vote to adjourn?

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<mildbeard> Hold on, why is the next meeting 12/26?

  • kusanagi gives channel operator status to OyajiVyse

<kusanagi> We're going to start going monthly instead of weekly <itspara> When was this decided? <kusanagi> It wasn't decided on, I feel it may be more productive to start having the meetings monthly instead of weekly. If you guys feel otherwise, then we can come back next week. <passstab> can i talk about my classes idea? <mildbeard> I'm not against it. Just came as a surprise. <kusanagi> sure, passstab <itspara> I think it should be voted on <kusanagi> Does a state wish to make a motion to vote on the meeting date/frequency? <passstab> i think that we should have pirate classes, for pirates , by pirates, about pirate stuff <kusanagi> Pirate stuff, like coding, crypto, and the like? <Rush> Hacker High School <mildbeard> Massachusetts Pirate Party co-sponsored a crypto party. Have you heard of them? We could have an online one using videos or something... <passstab> as well as stuff regarding running a party <passstab> getting a state party off the ground, campaign law, how to talk to people <mildbeard> We had a conference in 2012 - I think it was around March - and we were thinking of having a virtual conference that we'd publish as a series of videos. It is not exactly the same as passstab's idea but similar. I think MAPP is interested in your idea, but would have to discusss with them. <kusanagi> It was in March, OyajiVyse and I attended. It was awesome :D <mildbeard> thanks <passstab> my idea was to have them online <Rush> Passtab, only if the next video in the series is "how to talk to girls" <Rush> lol <passstab> lol <mildbeard> I would love to give a talk on peer to peer networks and the future of the pirate party. <kusanagi> kind of like a pirate ted talk <mildbeard> LOL we could create TED Pirate. <Rush> YES, but it'd have to be TEDx Pirate <mildbeard> Because x marks the spot... <Rush> Yes <mildbeard> love it <kusanagi> That is brilliant <kusanagi> We should work that. i really like that idea. <mildbeard> I will contact TED and see what it takes to use TEDx. <kusanagi> awesome, thank you <passstab> ted is cc-by-nc-nd :( <mildbeard> TEDx events may not be used to promote political agendas. <itspara> hrmm <kusanagi> :/ <itspara> not surprising <kusanagi> so it would have to be our own series <itspara> still.. we should totally do it <kusanagi> We really should, that would be excellent <Rush> What would we call it? W"B"T?? <kusanagi> Pirate School <Rush> That sounds like Driving School, something you'd go to if you got a ticket <itspara> true <itspara> Pirate U <MrSquared> Call it "The Poopdeck" <passstab> ^^ <itspara> U as in university <passstab> anyone interested in forming a committee for this? <mildbeard> SAB x Pirate <mildbeard> Pirate X <Missle59> The School of Swashbuckling and Adventuring <kusanagi> passstab, would you like to head the committee? <passstab> sure <itspara> This could go along with the youtube channel I suggested outside of this meeting <mildbeard> MAPP has a youtube channel already.

  • passstab is taking on a lot of responsibility while tired :/

<mildbeard> Should we just have a discussion on SAB and place this on the agenda for next mtg? <itspara> I think it would be nice to have a national channel.. so we can brand ourselves nationally <kusanagi> yes, mi <kusanagi> mildbeard, <itspara> on SAB or the forums.. yes <mildbeard> Does the new site have a forum? <itspara> we have had a forum for over a month <itspara> a nice new phpbb3 forum <kusanagi> I believe the one we have now will continue to be our forum <itspara> http://pirate-party.us/forum <mildbeard> ah ok. I didn't see a link on the testing.usporates.org site - so I wasn't sure. <mildbeard> testing.uspirates.org I mean

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<itspara> there should be a link along the top... unless someone removed it <kusanagi> I didn't see one last night.. <mildbeard> Aah. Didn't notice. That and the login links are kinda subtle.

<mildbeard> OK so I'd like to make a motion about the next meeting date if that's OK? <kusanagi> sure <mildbeard> Move to hold our next meeting on Wed 12/26. <kusanagi> second? <MrSquared> second <itspara> observers cant second :/ <Bosun> second <kusanagi> Vote on next meeting date to be Dec. 26 - aye or nay? <Bosun> aye <passstab> aye <mildbeard> aye <MrSquared> aye <itspara> nay <kusanagi> jarod? jarod_? <mildbeard> I wish we'd had more discussion before voting, because I'd like to understand itspara's objection. <jarod_> aye <jarod_> sorry at work <kusanagi> it's fine <itspara> I feel that meeting often helps keep everyone in the loop <itspara> and allows for voting on items more often <kusanagi> we can call a meeting sooner, if needed <passstab> we should have people on more committees to make up for it <itspara> ok... I still keep my nay vote... but that is good <mildbeard> This is a great time of year to have a break, but maybe every 2 weeks in the future would be OK? <kusanagi> we have that option as well <kusanagi> mildbeard, yeah, that may be better in the future <kusanagi> OyajiVyse, totals? <mildbeard> Also it would be nice to explore other times to meet. I know this doesn't work for some states. <OyajiVyse> 4 aye, 0.5 nay <kusanagi> especially the more western states <kusanagi> vote passed, next meeting dec 26th. make sure to bring boxes <itspara> I also want to see forums be used more... Eventually they should replace SAB as we don't have control over the SAB <kusanagi> that's true too, itspara <itspara> > make sure to bring boxes <kusanagi> boxing day joke. <mildbeard> ooooohhhhhh

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<itspara> Next IT meeting that actually happens I will try to make it a priority to build in mailing list functionality into the forums SAB section <kusanagi> anyway, bad jokes aside, anyone want to move to adjourn?\ <itspara> oh <itspara> I cant move <sacha> whoa what happened with the elections? <itspara> im an observer <kusanagi> itspara, i'll see if I can help with that <sacha> Everyone voted in that was supposed to be? <kusanagi> sacha, CalebLangeslag and OyajiVyse won. <mildbeard> Sacha, we have a new QM and a new FO. <itspara> sacha: we elected you supreme leader <sacha> Wait it has only been 14 mins <kusanagi> 14? <sacha> oh jk <mildbeard> 74 <kusanagi> uh.. you may need to fix your clock <itspara> an hour and 14 <sacha> I woke up late have no idea what time it is <kusanagi> we're about to adjourn <mildbeard> Are you in Australia? <itspara> I think we should give sacha time to bring up something if she wishes <kusanagi> i think she needs a coffee first <sacha> Lol <itspara> Sacha, any AOB stuff? <sacha> I was just going to ask about how making Liz's Fiance QM would affect things <sacha> Does it bother anyone? <kusanagi> it would lead to him getting beat if he doesn't do what he needs to. <sacha> They wouldn't be arguing as independent entities really <sacha> Or him getting beat if he disagrees with you <itspara> Im not sure, we will have to keep an eye on whether or not that causes any issues. <sacha> which could be a problem <mildbeard> Personally I'm glad someone stepped forward, and I don't think we should consider it a problem until it actually becomes one. <kusanagi> It won't cause any issues, and I won't beat him if he disagrees. <sacha> Is Travis banned from IRC? <itspara> If you do kusanagi, bear in mind both of you could lose your positions for abusing the system <kusanagi> He was temp banned because he was flooding before. he's been unbanned for some time now <kusanagi> itspara, well aware <sacha> I agree with you Mildbeard it is something I will just watch and I was curious what others thought <mildbeard> wait - what happened with Travis? <kusanagi> his client is messed up and it keeps joining then flooding out <kusanagi> he said to ban him when it happens, and I do and let him know immediately. <mildbeard> aah ok. that's not as controversial as it sounded!!! <itspara> not like he was arrested for building nukes <kusanagi> mildbeard, we almost had dramas! hahah

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<mildbeard> itspara - if you start using the forums I will be sure to reply to you there! <mildbeard> Move to adjourn. <kusanagi> oooh.. we fell under quorum. <kusanagi> anyone second? MrSquared, Bosun? <itspara> I want to see the captain actively using the forums as well... <Bosun> second <kusanagi> itspara, I will <kusanagi> ok, vote to adjourn <mildbeard> aye <sacha> k all is good <itspara> aye <mildbeard> I hope the IT committee will let me create a policy forum. I would post there a lot. <itspara> I can set that up now if you wish <itspara> I think we should remodel the forum after the green parties shiny new forum <kusanagi> ok, we're under quorum anyway, good night, next meeting is boxing day, dec 26th unless called before then. good night <Bosun> aye adjourn <OyajiVyse> good night all, and thank you once again :) <Bosun> goodnight <passstab> 'night