PNC 6/17/20

Agenda

Open discussion tonight. Talk about anything no matter who you are.

Minutes

Record of the meeting

 


[9:44pm] Bosun: This will be a free for all night. Any lurkers may speak up and say anything they wish.
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[9:49pm] Sayyida: whats up?
[9:49pm] Sayyida: ahoy
[9:50pm] roarde: Several states elect their governments next year. The census will be in, so there's redistricting. Also, people are currently complaining about winner-take-all and first-past-the-post.
[9:50pm] roarde: Might consider garnering some of that attention and holding onto it until it can be properly applied.
[9:51pm] jokeefe: RCV is on its way to being on the Nov. ballot in Mass. https://twitter.com/VoterChoice2020/status/1273219354570743808
[9:53pm] Sayyida: thats interesting
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[9:55pm] Bosun: https://ballotpedia.org/Ranked-choice_voting_(RCV)#Ranked_choice_voting_in_the_United_States
[9:58pm] Bosun: https://ballotpedia.org/Electoral_systems_in_Maine
[9:58pm] papegaai: Title: Electoral systems in Maine - Ballotpedia (at ballotpedia.org)
[9:58pm] Bosun: The system resists.
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[10:00pm] Sayyida: What have you been up to jokeefe?
[10:02pm] jokeefe: Work, family mostly. Managed to get to the beach, mask on face and social distancing
[10:02pm] jokeefe: you?
[10:03pm] Poet: Ahoy! Sorry for being MIA recently
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[10:04pm] Sayyida: the norm, but im heading to my mothers tomorrow with baby pirate
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[10:04pm] Sayyida: i have an ipad that im still trying to breathe life into
[10:04pm] Bosun: The masks look like the path to controlling the virus.
[10:05pm] jokeefe: hope you can resurrect it, Sayyida.
[10:05pm] Bosun: @Poet no keelhauling here.
[10:05pm] Sayyida: i need a new logic board and speakers and a video cable
[10:05pm] Sayyida: ive replaced the screen, and battery
[10:05pm] jokeefe: Masks are probably one of the most effective ways to stopping the spread. Awful that some are so resistant to it.
[10:06pm] Bosun: Her hobby is tinkering with broken equipment.
[10:06pm] Sayyida: this is just a stupid idea and a negative worth project hahaha
[10:06pm] Poet: interesting, I didn't even know RCV has been implemented in a state  hope mass pulls through
[10:06pm] Sayyida: its an ipad gen 1
[10:07pm] Joe: This was brought up in our meeting
[10:07pm] Joe: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200604/01241444641/major-publishers-sue-internet-archives-digital-library-program-midst-pandemic.shtml
[10:07pm] papegaai: Title: Major Publishers Sue The Internet Archive's Digital Library Program In The Midst Of A Pandemic | Techdirt (at www.techdirt.com)
[10:07pm] Joe: It really happened.....
[10:07pm] Bosun: The Progressives tried to swing it in Wisconsin in 1911 or thereabout.
[10:08pm] Sayyida: why did it fail Bosun
[10:09pm] jokeefe: Poet, RCV is used in Maine
[10:10pm] jokeefe: hoping Mass. is the second state to use it.
[10:10pm] Bosun: Not really certain. Maybe fear of the Social-Democrats in Milwaukee?
[10:10pm] Bosun: The two party system resists it.
[10:11pm] Sayyida: it hates it
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[10:15pm] Bosun: Apparently a bunch of states had it from 1913 until 1930.
[10:15pm] jokeefe: rcv failed in Alaska years ago and fusion voting in mass. in the last decade.
[10:17pm] Bosun: Red scare? Great depression? May have contributed to the downfall.
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[10:21pm] Bosun: Some good stuff here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States
[10:21pm] papegaai: Title: Ranked-choice voting in the United States - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
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[10:25pm] Bosun: Money from IP rights does seem to be the root of all copyright evil.
[10:25pm] Sayyida: 5 min left
[10:26pm] Bosun: Yes, we killed another evening.
[10:26pm] Sayyida: im going to bed.  I have a very long day tomorrow.
[10:26pm] Sayyida: good night everyone
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[10:26pm] Bosun: My daughter is on twitch right now.
[10:27pm] Bosun: Let's adjourn.
[10:27pm] jokeefe: true, Bosun