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** We should start with a narrow focus and widen it later. Priorities include asynchronous meetings, policy formation and attracting more people to this effort. --[[User:Erixoltan|Erixoltan]] ([[User talk:Erixoltan|talk]])
 
** We should start with a narrow focus and widen it later. Priorities include asynchronous meetings, policy formation and attracting more people to this effort. --[[User:Erixoltan|Erixoltan]] ([[User talk:Erixoltan|talk]])
 
* What is our strategy for growth? --[[User:Erixoltan|Erixoltan]] ([[User talk:Erixoltan|talk]]) 09:43, 8 November 2012 (EST)
 
* What is our strategy for growth? --[[User:Erixoltan|Erixoltan]] ([[User talk:Erixoltan|talk]]) 09:43, 8 November 2012 (EST)
** My suggestion would be to target potential pirates who are in states without active parties or talk of establishing a party. If we can get the list of those who signed up to hear from the website when there were enough people who wanted to establish a party, or if we can get some sort of advertisement on the USPP website, that could help. --[[User: Lukas Kelly|Lukas Kelly]]  
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** My suggestion would be to target potential pirates who are in states without active parties or talk of establishing a party. If we can get the list of those who signed up to hear from the website when there were enough people who wanted to establish a party, or if we can get some sort of advertisement on the USPP website, that could help. --[[User: Lukas Kelly|Lukas Kelly]] Nov 11 2012
 
* Look at this. [http://piratetimes.net/a-weekend-in-paris-the-extraordinary-assembly-of-the-french-pirates-2012/ French Pirate Revolution] [[User:QuazarGuy|QuazarGuy]] ([[User talk:QuazarGuy|talk]]) 16:27, 10 November 2012 (EST)
 
* Look at this. [http://piratetimes.net/a-weekend-in-paris-the-extraordinary-assembly-of-the-french-pirates-2012/ French Pirate Revolution] [[User:QuazarGuy|QuazarGuy]] ([[User talk:QuazarGuy|talk]]) 16:27, 10 November 2012 (EST)
  
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=Policy=
 
=Policy=
This section will contain discussion of policy in general and specific policy initiatives.
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*How would we even begin to establish the foundation of an economic policy? I don't think economics is something we should have a very set and specific stance on, but that's what the American populace wants to hear about at this point. Many people won't take our issues very seriously when the economy is their first priority and they will continue to support the candidates who have the economic answers they are looking for. In my opinion, a bottom-up/demand-side approach seems to fit our current values. Not only does it sort of parallel the grass-roots style of the party, but a distinct stance against trickle-down economics follows post-ideological meritocratic values and our general anti-corporatist stance. --[[User: Lukas Kelly|Lukas Kelly]] Nov 11 2012
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==Asynchronous Policy Formation==
 
==Asynchronous Policy Formation==
 
* Normally you have a proposal and vote on it. If it passes, you adopt the policy.  In an asynchronous meeting, the vote could be against today but in favor tomorrow, as more people join and vote. We should therefore keep a running tally, and prepare to have proposals possibly float in and out of favor over time. --[[User:Erixoltan|Erixoltan]] ([[User talk:Erixoltan|talk]])
 
* Normally you have a proposal and vote on it. If it passes, you adopt the policy.  In an asynchronous meeting, the vote could be against today but in favor tomorrow, as more people join and vote. We should therefore keep a running tally, and prepare to have proposals possibly float in and out of favor over time. --[[User:Erixoltan|Erixoltan]] ([[User talk:Erixoltan|talk]])
 
**Therefore I propose that as a temporary measure, we put votes directly in the wiki discussion page, and are on the honor system not to edit them. Until we have better software. All in favor place an "aye" vote below, preceded by "***", and sign it.  --[[User:Erixoltan|Erixoltan]] ([[User talk:Erixoltan|talk]])
 
**Therefore I propose that as a temporary measure, we put votes directly in the wiki discussion page, and are on the honor system not to edit them. Until we have better software. All in favor place an "aye" vote below, preceded by "***", and sign it.  --[[User:Erixoltan|Erixoltan]] ([[User talk:Erixoltan|talk]])
 
***aye--[[User:Erixoltan|Erixoltan]] ([[User talk:Erixoltan|talk]])
 
***aye--[[User:Erixoltan|Erixoltan]] ([[User talk:Erixoltan|talk]])

Revision as of 02:10, 12 November 2012

Pirate Insurrection

  • How do we want to advertise that we exist? Sacha Oct 25 2012
    • We could simply send out an email with a link to the Pirate Underground wiki page. --Erixoltan (talk) 09:55, 8 November 2012 (EST)
  • What do we want to focus on? How big do we want to make this? Sacha Oct 25 2012
    • We should start with a narrow focus and widen it later. Priorities include asynchronous meetings, policy formation and attracting more people to this effort. --Erixoltan (talk)
  • What is our strategy for growth? --Erixoltan (talk) 09:43, 8 November 2012 (EST)
    • My suggestion would be to target potential pirates who are in states without active parties or talk of establishing a party. If we can get the list of those who signed up to hear from the website when there were enough people who wanted to establish a party, or if we can get some sort of advertisement on the USPP website, that could help. --Lukas Kelly Nov 11 2012
  • Look at this. French Pirate Revolution QuazarGuy (talk) 16:27, 10 November 2012 (EST)

Asynchronous Meetings

  • Here is what I think that we can do. We can use the discussion page just make sure that you sign your talks and we can all use one bullet point. So for example if I was first I would use one '*' next person does '**' to reply and then I reply with '*' to them. We can make up different topics by using '== ==' etc. So '='Meetings'=' '==' discussion '==' and '==' members '==' like that. Sacha Oct 25 2012
    • Sacha I think that's a good idea. --Erixoltan (talk) 09:55, 8 November 2012 (EST)
  • How do we vote asynchronously using a wiki? We could go in and post votes right here. I will do that below in the policy section. Please add a vote there, so we can see if it works. --Erixoltan (talk)
  • Danger of cheating. We really need software for asynchronous meetings. If we post votes here, then someone could go in and change them. Someone could also go in and tamper with the discussion. In the meantime, we have to be on the honor system. --Erixoltan (talk)

Policy

  • How would we even begin to establish the foundation of an economic policy? I don't think economics is something we should have a very set and specific stance on, but that's what the American populace wants to hear about at this point. Many people won't take our issues very seriously when the economy is their first priority and they will continue to support the candidates who have the economic answers they are looking for. In my opinion, a bottom-up/demand-side approach seems to fit our current values. Not only does it sort of parallel the grass-roots style of the party, but a distinct stance against trickle-down economics follows post-ideological meritocratic values and our general anti-corporatist stance. --Lukas Kelly Nov 11 2012


Asynchronous Policy Formation

  • Normally you have a proposal and vote on it. If it passes, you adopt the policy. In an asynchronous meeting, the vote could be against today but in favor tomorrow, as more people join and vote. We should therefore keep a running tally, and prepare to have proposals possibly float in and out of favor over time. --Erixoltan (talk)
    • Therefore I propose that as a temporary measure, we put votes directly in the wiki discussion page, and are on the honor system not to edit them. Until we have better software. All in favor place an "aye" vote below, preceded by "***", and sign it. --Erixoltan (talk)